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11. Consider
the relevance of this class to your degree program and/or life in
general, overall quality of product and delivery, value for your
tuition dollar, etc. Use N/A if you have not taken any other courses at
LCC or elsewhere.
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| | Well Above Average | Above Average | Average | Below Average | Well Below Average |
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| How does this course compare to all other
courses you have taken at LCC (including online, hybrid, traditional,
and telecourse classes)? |  | 2.3 | 0 |
| How does this online course compare relative to other online courses you have taken at LCC? | | 2.1 | 1 |
| How does this online course compare relative to other online courses you have taken at any institution? | | 1.7 | 4 |
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12. I
enjoyed reading the student discussions. They were supposed to be a way
for all students (even shy ones who never like to speak up in a regular
class) to participate. The way I see it, if you simply get involved
often and throughout the week, this should have been an easy A+ grade.
Together, they counted for a substantial 25% of your class grade.
But
as you may have seen or read for yourself, a number of students did not
participate, failed to post by the first Wednesday deadline, posted
less than three times a week, only posted on Sunday just before the
deadline, or failed to put forth a thoughtful/analytical effort which
included specific data from the materials (textbooks, videos/DVDs, web
reading/watching/listening materials).
Help me to understand and/or provide me with any relevant feedback on this matter?
Deadlines for making your first post?
Scoring posts? 1 to 3 scale?
Length of assignment?
Topics change each week?
Group size? Random groups?
Worth your time and effort?
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disclaimer:
even though i might not have completely followed my suggestions during
this class i do agree and would strive to do this in future classes.
the deadlines for the first post are very reasonable. the one suggestion i would have is to make the points more difficult to receive. if
a person does not post by the first deadline, then they will not be
allowed to post anything and receive no points for the first assignment. if
they participate in the second week, they must still post the
assignment for the first week and the second assignment by wednesday or
they will not receive points for the second week either.
scoring and the length are reasonable.
changing the topic allows for a greater opportunity to learn.
as far as group size/random groups i believe they would be good as long as everyone participates. i did find myself with more posts this week and wanting to continue a few discussions but it was difficult to do so. it is worth my time and effort. even though there may not be many actual discussions i learn from putting a post together.
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| this is one of my
favorite classes ever taken in my college career, and i really enjoyed
the readings and videos. the forums were more of a challenge because
they had to be done often and had two different deadlines per week. the
writing assignments were easier for me because i could find time within
my busy schedule to sit down and write for whatever length of time i
had. the forums were a great way to see other students' perspectives of
the war, they just didn't mesh well with the way my schedule was built.
that's only my point of view and experience with it however, and it is
probably much easier for other students. |
deadlines- for a first post is fine as long as it is not deadline for initial posts on all 4 topics.
scoring- was good and fine
length- was appropriate for each assignment.
topics-
a bit to many and much towards end of the term i thought. it made it
hard to keep up and apply enough time and effort to effectively read
posts from other students. they all started to dumb down in quality due
to pressures of other classes and amount i feel. i noticed the same in
my own quality of answers.
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| i found it
difficult to balance school, a full time job, and my family issues with
the schedule provided. the free time i had available always literally
existed late, late at night, and some of the prompts seemed poorly
phrased and hard to sort through, in order to find the base question.
the length of the assignments was reasonable, and the random groups
were enjoyable. |
| i enjoyed the
forum part of this class. i found it helpful to read what other
students posted and to see their responses to what i posted. i
thught th deadlines were sufficient and the change of subject was
nice. |
i did not feel
that the timing in which you turned in your forum posts should affect
your grade. the online course is taken by a large majority of students
who are both working full time and attending courses at lane, the time
they put aside for assignments could be later in the night if they work
the night shift. so posting \\\"just before any deadline\\\" should not
have a major affect on their grade rather the thoughtful/analytical
effort. While I can see
your point, unfortunately, there can be NO true online discussions if
students cram in posts just before the deadline. This is not an
independent study or correspondence course, as I clearly indicated to
all students before the term even began.
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| the mere fact
that other students failed to post made it difficult for there to be an
ongoing conversation. i believe that it had nothing to do with
deadlines, which i thought were generous actually, the length didn\'t
seem to matter as much as the quality of the post which seemed to be
lacking and other students seemed to just state opinions about the war
rather than the topics at hand. it was worth the time and effort but
the lack of response made it difficult to get what we could have
gotten/learned from it. |
| everything in this course seemed fair and there was ample time to do the assignments. |
deadlines for
making your first post-i think that wednesday was a fair deadline for
making my first. i think that was half way through the week which
allowed students to talk to one another about the subject.
scoring
posts? 1 to 3 scale: i think that the scoring of the posts seemed a bit
unfair via online because it\'s harder to explain yourself(which i know
is part of taking an online class) but with that being said, things
said can be perceived many different ways and really when the
instructor doesn\'t get involved and ask questions to try to find out
where the student may have been going with that thought rather than
reading it as it is and counting them down even when they are
participating and taking the time to post to the forum. Ahh,
that is the very problem with online communication, thus my warning
that students must be able to write well. I'm also not sure I
should be the one asking your questions to better explain
yourself. I asked the initial questions students are supposed to
analyze and answer. And I am always available, via Moodle
messages, phone, office hours, etc. if you need to have anything
clarified.
Length of assignment-the length of the
assignments were perfect. i don\'t think that we could have really
answered your questions if they were required to be any shorter and
probably would have rambled on if they were required to be any longer.
group
size? random groups? i was a little confused with the groups at first,
but then once i understood i thought that was pretty cool. the
size was perfect.
worth your time and effort-i think that this
class was worth my time and effort however, even the effort i did put
forth, i\'m not a very good retainer of history. i never have been, in
fact it\'s my worst subject, but i tried to keep up with everything and
for the most part did pretty well in that department. i think
that had i known what was coming up in the weeks ahead would have been
helpful because i seemed to spend most of my time reading and watching
the videos and it was hard to keep up with all of the material
although, it was all very important when really getting to know what
vietnam was all about. |
| i personally love
the class but feel like it is really hard to go back and forth from
video to the herring book and then to the appy book and other video
clips. it is not hard just time consuming and i have so much work to
do. i think that people should talk to their instructor more often, mr.
escobar has high expectations for his students and seems very strict
but at the same time is very understanding when a student puts forth
and effort. |
| for myself, i
recognize that i failed to get as much from the forums as i could have
because of unexpected complications in my own life. the opportunity was
well presented through the forum process, but the amount of time that i
had expected to be able to allot for this course was commandeered by
the needs of my small business. the only feedback i would suggest is
that you somehow encourage people to post in smaller chunks. a forum
full of extremely long posts is difficult to engage with in a two way
fashion. it seemed more like a group of competing assignment papers
rather than having the feeling of a round table discussion. when people
talk over dinner about politics, history ect,... the comments and ideas
are handed back and forth in small bite sized portions and i think that
finding a way to encourage this type of feeling in the forums would
make them more engaging. |
i think for some
students it might have been hard for them to post the dicussions in a
worthwhile manner because the vietnam war can be interpreted in such a
different way. also it a very sentivity subject and they did not want
to offend anyone in the class. Yes,
the subject is a sensitive one. Clearly explaining yourself
through the written word, using historical evidence to support yourposition, is the toughest part of this online class.
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| i thought that
the deadlines were easily meet-able and the assignment were not to hard
but the way that they were scored left lots to question, also the
teacher never graded our answers with reasons behind them. It sounds as if you did not read the instructions and clear rubric for how posts and replies would be graded. |
| - the wednesday
deadline were fine if the discussion only involved videos. most of the
time there was too much reading to post by the deadline.
- the scoring, length, and topic size was fine.
- i think the discussion should have been the entire class. it was
tough some weeks when there wasn't much to comment on or ask questions
about.
- for the most part it was worth it. there was a week or two that
didn't produce much discussion. |
| i found the
wednesday deadline hard to meet. that it was sometime hard to have all
the materials read, watched or listened to by that date. |
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16. What recommendations would you suggest in order to improve this course?
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| this is a wonderful course and i consider myself lucky to have been able to take it. |
| nothing comes to
mind because this class was awesome. i've never taken such a detailed
class of a specific time period and i loved learning everything about
the vietnam war. i feel that i've taken away more from this class than
almost any other in the years i've been in college. |
| decreased amount
of topics towards end of term. open ended to insight more discussion
and originallity in posts. by this i mean, perhaps have it so that the
student asks a question of say nixon, johnson etc....about aspects of
the war. i find most students repeat each other because of limited
resources on exact points of information. so the student just replies
with "i agree" and essentially stating the same thing in their own
words. discussions need to be original. i saw good discussions when
students would ask a question. when a student asked about hollywood's
view of the war, many students had opinions and information to provide
i think. they seemed like they wanted to. |
i only spoke with
the instructor once and he was less than helpful and my grade reflected
his attitude. once i began to write more towards his point of view my
grade went up remarkably. it would be helpful if the instructor was
more open minded to others views of the war and grade
accordingly. This
is an interesting criticism. If you believe that all views are
valid, then you are in for a tough time in this course. Opinions
and/or claims that are backed by historical evidence should be the only
ones that we should deem as valid or having merit. Everyone is
entitled to their own opinion, but that does not make it accurate or
correct. This is a history class. When you are presented
with historical evidence that should lead you to conclusion #1, but you
decided to ignore it, and without any evidence of your own, propose
that concusion #2 is correct, then you cannot earn a reasonable grade
in this course. (This really should apply to all things in life,
shouldn't it?)
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| i think the
material for the class (text and video) was effective and beneficial. i
liked the way the videos and readings are just enough to give you
important information and not overload you in information or make you
feel like you wasted your time, so i have no suggestions. |
| this course was well thought out. no recommendations are needed |
i would
reccommend that the assignments not be worth so many points especially
if it\'s based on a persons opinion. i understand that you have to have
something to back up your opinion but when you get a satisfactory grade
on something you thought you did very well at, it can be
frustrating. i did all of the coursework, got it in on time,
studied, read, watched the videos and i still am not going to pass this
class because i\'m not able to retain information like many other
students who took this course. unfortunately online classes are
really the only thing i can take at this time because i have to
work full time and my hours at work do not allow me to be very flexible
with my school schedule. my best recommendation to any other
students taking this class would be to make sure that you are taking
this class all by itself rather than attempting to give your attention
to any other classes during the same term. it requires a lot of
attention and a lot of reading, watching and retaining. This
is a perfect example of the unrealistic expectation that you can work
full time, 40 hours a week at a job, and expect to take a full college
courseload, which also SHOULD expect a 40 hour a week time commitment
from the student.
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none, other than
the minor suggestions regarding the forum. i felt that this class was
well conceived and executed. when i was checking the grade status, i
particularly appreciated the comparative grade display. it did not
violate anybodies privacy, but gave perspective on how one was doing
compared to the \"pack\", it also was very helpful to know get a sense
of how much grade maneuverability was available at any point in the
term.
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| more feedback
either positive or negative. also a more personable and helpful
attitude towards students asking for help. that would improve the class
greatly. |
i know online courses are mostly busy work, but there was quite a lot of reading. Yikes, I don't know how to repond to this.
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