wed. 10/2/02 david jewell davidmjewell borrowdalej@lanecc.edu

<title>wed. 10/2/02 david jewell davidmjewell borrowdalej@lanecc.edu</title>
announcements: suggested topics for analytical writings were handed out. If you have any questions make sure to stop by office hours or drop a line.<br>
(suggested topics are just "to get the juices flowing")<br>
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*Packets won't be ready until next week sometime. Prof. Borrowdale will inform you when it's ready. ( there will be more to read when the packets are finished)<br>
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*last day to do any class dropping is NOV.15!<br>
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Class discussion:<br>
   Talking about the Archdeceiver...If there's deception, there has to be a person to be deceived as well as as deceiver...so the moment you doubt your own existence you prove that you exist...if there is doubting going on then there must be a doubter.<br>
            doubting-->doubter<br>
                   and<br>
            thinking-->thinker...<br>
This is how Rene Descartes come up with this famous phrase.. "I think therefore I am"<br>
This is Descartes foundation of knowledge, it is his starting point. From here (I exist) he goes on to God exist.<br>
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God exist<br>
1. ontological argument (existence argument)<br>
(an A priori argument). To prove God exist through analyzing concepts. (setting back and thinking). Descartes says <br>
            God is a perfect being..        A perfect being must contain all perfection..<br>
            Existence is a perfection...<br>
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             God exists<br>
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where existence is a quilty of perfection<br>
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Critism--> the concept of perfection is vague, maybe relative to a persons purpose.<br>
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                 MOST PERFECT<br>
B                 GOD<br>
E<br>
I                 ANGELS<br>
N                 PEOPLE<br>
G                 PLANTS<br>
S                 ROCKS<br>
                 LEAST PERFECT<br>
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        HOW CAN A FINITE PERSON MAKE UP AN INFINATE GOD?<br>
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only an actual God existing could explian my idea/concept of God because the idea of God is a innate idea that nobody had to teach us, rather they only fine tuned it.<br>
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Where did my concept of God come from?<br>
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My concept of God is of an infinite and perfect being. Yet I am finite and imperfect. I could not have created the idea myself.      <br>