Message-ID: <7428541.1182531749283.JavaMail.joeescobar@joe-escobars-computer.local> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 19:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: MilesG Reply-To: Online.MC_PO3.LCC-Mail@lanecc.edu Subject: Re: Problem with TestPilot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_308_4331752.1182531749282" GWItemID: 44AD07D7.LCC-Mail.MC_PO3.100.1346735.1.101D.1 ------=_Part_308_4331752.1182531749282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Joe. Thanks for the information. This is really unfortunate. I use = about a dozen quiz questions on each secure midterm exam, so the students n= eed to know the correct answers to all quiz questions. =20 I have a couple of potential solutions to the problem. One is to post a= ll correct answers in the WebCT Discussion function. I know, however, that= many students don't bother with WebCT, even though I insist that everyone = use it. I'll do this at least for Quiz 1, which has already passed. I wou= ld not be willing to post correct answers to the secure midterms, however. = A second potential solution is to switch now to Moodle testing. As you kn= ow, I have all my test files in Aiken format (thanks again). I have not, h= owever, done anything with the files you sent back to me, since I normally = would not use them until winter term 2007, and I have been busy with other = work. Would you be willing to help me set up the rest of the quizzes (2-7)= and midterm exams (1-3) in Moodle over the next few days? Your help would= definitely speed things up, and I would be sure to have it right, without = a lot of fumbling around. I would need to bring in the appropriate test fi= les (Aiken), make a new menu and get rid of the TestPilot menu, set up the = quizzes and exams, make sure students can retrieve quiz answers, make sure = students can take secure midterms in the Science Resource Center, and so on= . =20 If you have other potential solutions that would help our class, I would= really appreciate hearing them. Thanks. Greg Miles. >>> Online >>> Greg, You are the second to report this problem this Summer. This "glitch" started happening this past year and we were unable to track = down the problem and neither was the TestPilot software group (who was "bou= ght out" by McGraw Hill a year or so ago). This was one of the reasons why= we are "leaving" TestPilot, along with LCC budget cuts and a need to strea= mline offerings. All I can say to you is that yes. each student "took" the quiz and the appr= opriate score (only) shows. However, you are unable to see their actual qu= iz itself. The range of instructional problems this presents is wide. If= you just need the scores, you are set. If you or the students need to act= ually "see" these quizzes, then you are in trouble. I wish I could be of more help. Joe >>> Greg Miles >>> I am teaching the Oceanography telecourse (GS 147, CRN 10375) this term, an= d have given Quiz 1 to the class using TestPilot. There is a problem with = retrieving the completed Quiz 1 with the correct answers shown. This is th= e first time in several years of using TestPilot that I have seen this, and= I'm not sure what the problem is. I have a listing of everyone's scores (= from the View Scores function), which is the most important thing. That fu= nction has not been affected by the problem, which is good. To view the problem, go into the Oceanography quiz marked "Quiz 1 No Pas= sword Needed", click on the View Scores link, then click the "View" link fo= r the first person to submit the quiz (Pletchert). You will see that her q= uiz shows normally. All other quizzes on the list, however, either have no= information at all or they tell the student that he/she has a score of zer= o on the quiz. The quiz and correct answers are not shown for any of these= students. In a related matter, two students have already submitted Quiz 2= , and the same problem is affecting that quiz as well. I have left voicemail and email messages with Toni Timmers, who oversees= TestPilot at LCC, concerning this problem, but I haven't heard back from h= er. I know a lot of LCC staff are off for the summer, so I thought it woul= d be best to send a help request to this site as well. I'm hoping that all= TestPilot activities are backed up daily. If so, we would have a better c= hance of retrieving any lost information. Any help would be appreciated.= =20 Greg Miles.=20 ------=_Part_308_4331752.1182531749282--