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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:45:05 -0800 (PST)
From: moodleadmin
Subject: Re: disappointment with moodle
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OK--I've verified the problem using some different examples.  <sigh>

I'm testing a fix I wrote for this problem, and am asking a question about it on moodle.org.  Unfortunately, there is no easy way to address this problem (you get different behavior, for example, if a student just submits his answers than if he saves without submitting first, and the fixes for the one conflict with the fixes for the other).

I'll let you know as I get more information.

David

>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at  9:45 am, Jim Bailey wrote: 
> I gave a quiz yesterday with essay problems and students continued to have 
> the problem.
> 
> You are welcome to look at it -- CS133G meta course, midterm.
> 
> I used the essay format.  
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> 
>>>> moodleadmin 02/13/07 11:52 PM >>>
> Joe et al,
> 
> I've done some experimenting, and from what I can see, I think the essay 
> question type will handle the stuff your students will be throwing at it.  I 
> tried some very basic coe snippets, e.g.:
> 
> for (i = 4096; i < max_count; i++)
> {
>     value = i >> 4;
> }
> 
> Yes, the example's a little contrived, but the point is, it worked.  Can you 
> maybe create a quiz with an essay question, try some representative code 
> snippets and see what happens?
> 
> David
> 
> ===============================================
> David Walton
> Moodle System Administrator
> Lane Community College
> For enrollment, course creation, logging in, or general server issues, email 
> moodleadmin@lanecc.edu
> For faculty assistance using Moodle, email online@lanecc.edu
> Voice: 463-3367
> ===============================================
>>>> Joe Escobar 02/12/07 11:29 AM >>>
> Jim,
> 
> This is the first I have heard of your specific problem.  I was under the 
> impression that you were working with Daniel Carrere.  You did not include 
> him on your email to Meredith and myself.  Why not?    Haven't you working 
> with Daniel?  Has he been looking into your problem?  Have you looked into a 
> solution by asking around at Moodle.org?  Has Daniel?  In short, has their 
> been any methodical or systematic effort to solve your problem?
> 
> In absence of any healthy discussion, your first email to me and Meredith on 
> this issue claims that "it's time to lobby campus for another solution" seems 
> premature to me.
> 
> Joe
>  
>>>> Jim Bailey 02/12/07 10:45 AM >>> 
> Hi,
> 
> After hearing back that the solution to moodle cutting off answers with >> or << 
> in them (all C++ programming examples) is to have the students submit their 
> answers in attachments, I have realized that there is a negative value to my 
> using moodle.
> 
> I can not give tests with it, since the answers will be cut off.
> 
> If I have to have students attach their answers, then no advantage over 
> previous method of having students email solutions to me.  
> 
> I really need to create viable on-line courses.  I need to be able to share 
> these with other faculty.  But, on tests I have to have essay type questions 
> in order to properly find out what students know.  Essays get cut off, 
> students do not get grades.  I have fought this for two terms, now am ready 
> to start lobbying campus wide for a new solution.
> 
> jim




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David Walton
Moodle System Administrator
Lane Community College
For enrollment, course creation, logging in, or general server issues, email moodleadmin@lanecc.edu
For faculty assistance using Moodle, email online@lanecc.edu
Voice: 463-3367
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