Message-ID: <2628831.1182489824073.JavaMail.joeescobar@joe-escobars-computer.local> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:01:56 -0800 (PST) From: keene-wilsonm Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: moodle testing security concerns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1871_13636947.1182489824072" GWItemID: 45B79F14.LCC-Mail.MC_PO3.100.1346735.1.3142.1 ------=_Part_1871_13636947.1182489824072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Save without submitting can be an important and needed function. If it is a= particulary long test, an essay for example, a student may want to save se= veral times during the process just like they would with a normal document,= mainly in case of losing information, computer going down, slow dial-up dr= ops them, etc. or the test may require them to open another website. Disabl= ing the "Save without Submitting" is a system-wide function and cannot be d= isabled from just one course. "Show quiz in a secure window" - Dan did you test it to see if you could pr= int from it? It may solve the problem. Try it and let Greg know how it goes= . I think hiding the glossary will work quite well. Students could still go o= ff site but if it is a timed test it would not be easy. Also, the testing labs do watch students and try to make sure they are "on = task". Dan, email me once you test the secure window option - I'd like to know thi= s answer too. Meredith ********************************************* Meredith Keene-Wilson Graphic Design/ Multimedia Instructor Faculty Webmaster Lane Community College 541.463.3022 >>> Online 01/24/07 5:04 PM >>> Hi Meredith and Joe, What are your thoughts on disabling the "Save Without Submitting Button" ..= . as a global option, etc. and related. Regards, -Dan >>> Online 1/24/2007 5:02 PM >>> Hi Greg, Good to meet with you last week. As for the "Show Quiz in a Secure Window"= that unfortunately does not keep a student from taking screen captures (im= ages of the screen) and sending them to "friends" / classmates. =20 If the students are taking an exam in a testing center, their internet acce= ss (to sites other than Moodle - and related) would depend on the rules for= that LCC testing site ... i.e. if the testing lab only allow students to a= ccess certain websites only, etc. As for disabling the Save Without Submitting Button, I will check on it and= get back with you. Regards, -Dan >>> "Greg Miles" 1/24/2007 4:41 PM >>> Hi, Dan and Meredith. I am using Moodle for the first time this term (Ocea= nography telecourse), and students will be taking their first midterm exam = next week (it run from January 31 through February 3). The exam consists o= f 50 multiple-choice questions, is closed-book, and must be taken at a secu= re computer. Here are some things I have done to get the exam underway. 1. I have input the questions, created and proofed the exam, and have hidd= en the exam. Before the exam starts, I will un-hide it. 2. I have had the staff in the Science Resources Center (where nearly all = students in the class will take their midterm exams) go through the procedu= re the students use to take the exam: log into their own Moodle site, clic= k on the exam link, and complete and submit the exam. 3. I am allowing the students to access the exam only once and submit it o= nly once. =20 I think that hiding the exam, putting a clock on it, restricting it to cert= ain testing computers, and allowing only one submission are helpful securit= y measures. However, I am really concerned about another aspect of securit= y. What would prohibit a student from clicking on the "Save without submit= ting" button at the bottom of the exam, going back into the Moodle site, ac= cessing the Oceanography Glossary (I know, I can hide the glossary for the = duration of the exam), accessing the quizzes (some quiz questions are on th= e exam), or even go out on the Internet and look for answers, then return t= o the exam? I can't hide the quizzes, because those students who take the = exam later in the week will want to refer to them. I notice that in the ed= iting function for each exam there is a section called "Show quiz in a secu= re window". If I answer "yes" to this, does it really help? The best way = to steer around this problem, it seems to me, is to disable the "Save witho= ut submitting" button. Can this be done? Thanks for any advice you can gi= ve. Greg Miles. ------=_Part_1871_13636947.1182489824072--