Just me. Andrew Godard FromTo me Joe Escobar Thursday, 5 February 2009 Andrew Godard [04:02 PM]: Hello, I've got the information here that I told you about. The book, "Thompson in Africa" is the oldest in my collection. Until recently, my primary interest in this book was simply how old it was, but now that we are learning about this same time period, it has sparked my interest. I have not yet read beyond the first few pages, and I suppose there is likely going to be very little subject matter in common with what we are learning in history class, but on the first few pages at least there is some connection, and I think it is interesting to see the opinions of a man who actually lived in that time. I wish I could bring the book itself in to class so you could see it first hand, but I feel that I must treat this book with great care due to its advanced age of 154 years (to think that this very book itself was held by the hands of men who were present in that time!). Regardless, here is the information on the book. I hope it is enough info. Book title: "Thompson in Africa", or "An Account of the Missionary Labors, Sufferings, Travels, and Observations, of George Thompson, in Western Africa, at the Mendi Mission." There are the words "Seven Thousand" printed below that. I'm not sure of the significance of that, but perhaps it could be the number of books printed for this edition. Below that: "New York: Printed for the Author. 1854" On the next page: "Entered according to Act of Congress in the year 1851, by George Thompson, In the Clerk's Office of the District Court of the United States for the District of Ohio." That was all the publishing data I was able to find in the book, but I looked online very quickly, and happily, I was able to easily find some websites you may find helpful. Here is one site that I found: http://www.stonegateantiques.net/items/113528/item113528store.html I also found used copies on amazon.com, but not any new copies. Its interesting... Judging by these various copies I've fond, my copy could be worth anywhere from $35 to $125. interesting. I didn't find any online versions, but then I didn't look very hard, and maybe you know more about finding that kind of thing than I do. Joe Escobar [07:27 PM]: Thanks so much. I think I found a PDF copy of the entire book here: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=rtURAAAAYAAJ&dq=Thompson+in+Africa Tuesday, 10 February 2009 Andrew Godard [05:32 PM]: So, I realize today after class probably wasn't the best day to try talking about the map I picked up, because of all the people who I'm sure needed to talk to you about their grades. I found this map to be quite interesting, because it has so much more detail than we usually see in history books. It has a great many rivers and mountains mapped and named, and some cities that are still around (like eugene). I don't see any roads on it except for the oregon trail (Emigrant route from the states), and what I believe to be the lewis and clark trail (not named as far as I can tell). If you are interested, I could bring it in so you can look at it (It is in a protective plastic wrap with a foam board behind it for support). As I'm sitting here, I'm kind of wondering just how to verify its actual age. It was entered into congress in 1860 according to the print on the bottom, but does that also meen it was printed at that time too, or could it have been printed at a later date? Even if it's not really as old as that, it is still very interesting to look at. Of course I understand if you simply dont have the time, after all, I'm sure there are a lot of students wanting to talk to you right now. Andrew Godard [05:32 PM]: So, I realize today after class probably wasn't the best day to try talking about the map I picked up, because of all the people who I'm sure needed to talk to you about their grades. I found this map to be quite interesting, because it has so much more detail than we usually see in history books. It has a great many rivers and mountains mapped and named, and some cities that are still around (like eugene). I don't see any roads on it except for the oregon trail (Emigrant route from the states), and what I believe to be the lewis and clark trail (not named as far as I can tell). If you are interested, I could bring it in so you can look at it (It is in a protective plastic wrap with a foam board behind it for support). As I'm sitting here, I'm kind of wondering just how to verify its actual age. It was entered into congress in 1860 according to the print on the bottom, but does that also meen it was printed at that time too, or could it have been printed at a later date? Even if it's not really as old as that, it is still very interesting to look at. Of course I understand if you simply dont have the time, after all, I'm sure there are a lot of students wanting to talk to you right now. Joe Escobar [08:08 PM]: Let's plan to have you bring it to school in a week or two. I have a couple of colleagues who are more knowledgeable than I am about dating items such as this. I'd sure like to see it, but they would be able to provide you with more information. Wednesday, 25 February 2009 Joe Escobar [08:08 PM]: Andrew, Sorry for the late notice. Tomorrow won't work for bringing in your map. The geographers and I have just been required to attend another meeting tomorrow afternoon. I am going to shoot for NEXT Thursday, and will confirm with you later. Saturday, 4 April 2009 Andrew Godard [09:45 PM]: I found some information about the "1860" map of Oregon. I found on the internet that Idaho didn't even become a territory until 1863. Until 63 it was still a part of the Washington territory. The map doesen't seem to suggest whether they are states or territories, so the map could be from as early as 1863. If they are definatly states, then that would place it at 1890 or later, because Washington became a state in 1889, and Idaho became a state in 1890. A little bit of info that seems to support my theory that the date is a misprint. Joe Escobar [11:09 PM]: Pretty interesting stuff here. I hope to get some more time to take a closer look at the scans you so generously provided me. Thursday, 7 May 2009 Andrew Godard [03:42 PM]: Since you asked, these are my instructors for next term. In my SP111: Fundamentals of Public Speaking class the instructor is Brooke M. Kendall, and in my WR122: Composition: Style & Argument class the instructor is Ann M. Kemmy. I guess while I'm at it, I may as well mention my art class Art131 Introduction to Drawing is with Kathleen M. Caprario-Ulrich. I don't know whether or not you are familiar with any of the art teachers. A funny coincidence regarding my instructors for next term, they are all women, and their middle initials are M. There's a statistic for you. Ha ha. Thank you for being frank in our discussion earlier, it does help sometimes to know what we are getting ourselves into. Joe Escobar [11:54 PM]: So, I don't know either of the first two LLC instructors. So that is neither good nor bad, in my opinion. Sorry I can't help you there. Now I do know just a bit about Caprario. BEGIN CONFIDENTIAL I find her to be an interesting person. She struck me as almost eccentric... but I think this is probably a good thing (and a more common thing, dare I say) in an art instructor. She sure seems to be a good person... caring about what she does and the learning of her students. END CONFIDENTIAL